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	<title>Comments on: AMD Bulldozer X8 In Production: FOLLOWUP</title>
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		<title>By: Nick McD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick McD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, given that B2 is the first release, I imagine we will see more of a complete chip than first gen&#039;s typically are, as we are seeing an edited chip in the first place.  But you are right: very new chip design, meaning we are looking at lots of potential changes as it matures.

In the past, we&#039;d have seen the B0, problems and all, hit the market.  Kudos to AMD for actually taking the time (and losing the money) to do a revision. I wish Intel would adopt the same attitude with the number of recalls they&#039;ve been having to do recently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, given that B2 is the first release, I imagine we will see more of a complete chip than first gen&#8217;s typically are, as we are seeing an edited chip in the first place.  But you are right: very new chip design, meaning we are looking at lots of potential changes as it matures.</p>
<p>In the past, we&#8217;d have seen the B0, problems and all, hit the market.  Kudos to AMD for actually taking the time (and losing the money) to do a revision. I wish Intel would adopt the same attitude with the number of recalls they&#8217;ve been having to do recently.</p>
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		<title>By: nerd monger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[whether they said zambezi or opteron in september, it still feels as an agonizingly long wait still.  given that this is a complete overwork of the processor, there will probably be a lot of real world application tweaks that the architecture is in need of, so the longer we wait for the initial release the longer we will have to wait for the optimized release that AMD has been promising from this.  Intel&#039;s Ivy bridge will have all of the real world tweaks that sandy bridge was in need of, not counting the fact that Sandy Bridge was a much smaller rework of the processor architecture in the first place.  So two months from now feels like a year from now for the performane we are looking for, which feels like the time we would be looking to a die shrink anyways...sigh  
on a related note, it means trinity (which will be about that 1 year mark) will conta in all of the updated fixes from bulldozer, and all of the apu 
knowledge gained from llano, meaning it should be a pretty seamless integration, for one hell of a processor]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whether they said zambezi or opteron in september, it still feels as an agonizingly long wait still.  given that this is a complete overwork of the processor, there will probably be a lot of real world application tweaks that the architecture is in need of, so the longer we wait for the initial release the longer we will have to wait for the optimized release that AMD has been promising from this.  Intel&#8217;s Ivy bridge will have all of the real world tweaks that sandy bridge was in need of, not counting the fact that Sandy Bridge was a much smaller rework of the processor architecture in the first place.  So two months from now feels like a year from now for the performane we are looking for, which feels like the time we would be looking to a die shrink anyways&#8230;sigh <br />
on a related note, it means trinity (which will be about that 1 year mark) will conta in all of the updated fixes from bulldozer, and all of the apu<br />
knowledge gained from llano, meaning it should be a pretty seamless integration, for one hell of a processor</p>
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